Dear Jason,
When I tried to engage you in serious political discourse surrounding your interpretation of Marx and Lenin's views, I had the best of intentions of changing your mind. I didn't expect I would end up blocked from your YouTube channel, with some "one-liner" insults as responses... Well, expecting something different from a Stalinite is, of course, foolish of me. Though, my concern is not so much about being blocked and unable to view your awkward and reactionary "news" videos, but your total disregard for the evidence I provided you.
I first contacted you via a private message, asking your opinion on some of your viewers who viewed the dictatorship of the proletariat and socialism as the same thing. My expectation was a response saying that you didn't hold that view, but held the typical Stalinite line. You responded, to my amusement, that "they are, its a part of Leninist theory"... I immediately consulted a Stalinist friend, who said, contrary to your claim that, the dictatorship of the proletariat and socialism were the same [added commas, expressing that the view is not yours, but the friend of mine]. This got me to thinking that you may have misread Marx and Lenin, or you just didn't read them at all, and didn't realize that they expressed that they viewed socialism as a classless society. What person in their right mind, who claims they are the ideological descendants of Marx and Lenin, could claim something contrary to them? So, I responded by providing you with both quotes from Marx, using his Critique of the Gotha Programme, and Lenin's State and Revolution, chapter 5. Perhaps that would open your eyes, and make you rethink your position... of course, you didn't, and just responded with more blithering bull shit. What'd you say? Oh, you said "wtf is wrong with you? Do you not see what you're doing? Dictatorship of the Proletariat is socialism, becuase in capitalism the bourgeois is the dictatorship. Why are you stupid? You're defining socialism as communism. I hereby order you to stop calling yourself a communist. Go form another international. Seriously you're fucked."
Are you really this fucking dumb, or are you afraid of being wrong and losing a part of your fan base? If you were really a Marxist, you would be acknowledging that you haven't read Lenin's State and Revolution and you have been totally ignorant of the facts. You would actually read, and be telling your fans to stop being ignorant as well. The fact that Marxists view the Dictatorship of the Proletariat and socialism to be two different societies is right there, in chapter 5 of State and Revolution. Ask any Marxist that isn't a Stalinite, they will tell you the difference. Plain and simple, you are wrong when you claim that the dictatorship of the proletariat and socialism were the same; you are wrong when you claim that socialism is not classless, and is separate from communism. This expression of revisionism is rather annoying, and I beseech you to stop it... just stop.
Lastly, and certainly the least, I am astonished that you actually decided to block me; preventing me from subscribing to your channel, commenting on your videos, and having any possible discourse with you, or your fan base. Am I really that threatening to your revisionist and reactionary views?
All the best,
T.K.
Edit Notice: Due to some poor wording, as a result of my hastily written post, I have edited certain points to make clear my argument to MaoistRebelNews. Obviously some grammatical errors gave him the bulk of his argument.
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Saturday, February 23, 2013
Sunday, September 13, 2009
The Right Wing and Obama Myths
While I am no active supporter of President Obama and his policies, I will not stand for idiocy spewing into the mainstream.
Anywho, for a while now, even during his campaign, the fringe right (I include the majority of the Republican Party in this category) have labeled US President Barack Obama as a socialist, fascist Muslim, racist, terrorist, Kenyan, Arab and an all around bad guy. Unsubstantiated rumors of death panels and government takeover are rampant from the right as Obama proposes health care reform. In this post I will do my best to debunk and make most of those points moot and unusable. Here goes nothin'.
Citizenship:
Well, this would be hilarious if it wasn't still widely used by the fringe right in America. First off, let's address his citizenship. He IS an American citizen, born in Honolulu, Hawaii. There is no valid argument against this. Factcheck.org has in fact debunked the idea that he is not a natural born citizen. Although this particular conspiracy theory should be a moot point by now, many on talk-radio such as Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage and others still advocate it. It just boggles my mind that people are this stupid.
Religion:
Obama, first of all, was not raised in a religious household. In fact, he developed his religious beliefs in his adult life. In 1988 he became a member of, and was baptized at, "Trinity United Church of Christ" and remained there for 20 years, until some "controversial" statements made by Reverend Jeremiah Wright, which we can discuss the validity of at another time, led to his departure from the church. Once again there is absolutely no evidence to support the claim he is a Muslim apart from how he attended a Madrasah and had a Muslim father. Well, I attended a Christian school, church, and had religious Christian grandparents. I'm an Agnostic now. The burden of proof is upon the right.
Racism:
This was suggested by Glen Beck and others, but is not a widely used idea. I mean, Glen Beck could say the Earth IS round, I would have to then look it up to see if it is true.
Socialist and Fascist; taking away our rights and freedoms!:
This idea has come from the right wing as a whole pretty much. With tea baggers, talk radio idiots, FOX news, Joe "The tax evading, unlicensed plumber" Wurzelbacher and the now unemployed blogger Sarah Palin pretty much agreeing that he is a socialist and a fascist, we can see how the right has come to accept these ideas as true. This is notably a prime example of the right wing advocacy of an Idiocracy, which is a government made up of idiots.
Socialism and Fascism are on the opposite side of the spectrum. So, the first thing i will ask of the right is to choose one. Calling him both a fascist and socialist is, I paraphrase TheAmazingAtheist, "like looking at a triangle and calling it both a circle and a square". Both advocate different forms of government from each other, different economic and social structures, social and foreign policies. Socialism is based on class struggle, worker ownership of the means of production, secularism and the want of economic equality. Fascism is based on a nationalistic view of the homeland, maintaining social conservatism and serving the wealthy and corporations via a dictatorial military government whilst misleading it's public into believing that it is doing this for the worker. I could make a full blog post on the differences, but that's for another time.
Obama is neither of these. He is a capitalist. Not a free market capitalist, for sure, but a capitalist nonetheless. He advocates private ownership of the means of production and the profit motive. BHO has never supported the idea of class war, economic equality, a welfare state or revolution. Though you may consider proposing universal healthcare a socialist ideal. Well, it is, but so is having a public fire department, public police, public roads, public libraries, publicly funded disease research centers, etc. What about "redistribution of wealth"? Well, go to the link and read away my friend. Fascism as anywhere near Obama's ideals is more substantial than calling him a socialist, but is still wrong. There are no correlations, apart form the corporatism and general tenedencies which has plagued the USA government for years. To quote George Carlin, "Germany lost the second world war, fascism won it...".
On the issue of rights and freedoms. Could you on the right be more specific as to what rights and freedoms have been taken away from you? I mean, aside from those Bush took away. Remember how you said nothing about that? Well, unless we on the left spoke out, then you told us to shut up and stop being un-American.
Obamacare:
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To conclude, it is completely unhelpful to the development and progression of a nation to push lies and propaganda to the point that it disrupts logic and reason. Obama is neither a socialist or fascist. He is an American, Christian, capitalist and he is not gonna kill your grand mama. All of you who still believe in these fallacies propagated from FOX News and Talk-radio, I hope you enjoy being an imbecile.
These are some of my news sources, check them out if your sick of CNN, FOX, CBS and NBC.
http://english.aljazeera.net/
http://www.democracynow.org/
http://commondreams.org/
http://therealnews.com/t/
http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/
http://www.cbc.ca/
http://www.presstv.com/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
http://www.haaretz.com/
http://www.reuters.com/
http://associatedpress.com/
Anywho, for a while now, even during his campaign, the fringe right (I include the majority of the Republican Party in this category) have labeled US President Barack Obama as a socialist, fascist Muslim, racist, terrorist, Kenyan, Arab and an all around bad guy. Unsubstantiated rumors of death panels and government takeover are rampant from the right as Obama proposes health care reform. In this post I will do my best to debunk and make most of those points moot and unusable. Here goes nothin'.
Citizenship:
Well, this would be hilarious if it wasn't still widely used by the fringe right in America. First off, let's address his citizenship. He IS an American citizen, born in Honolulu, Hawaii. There is no valid argument against this. Factcheck.org has in fact debunked the idea that he is not a natural born citizen. Although this particular conspiracy theory should be a moot point by now, many on talk-radio such as Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage and others still advocate it. It just boggles my mind that people are this stupid.
Religion:
Obama, first of all, was not raised in a religious household. In fact, he developed his religious beliefs in his adult life. In 1988 he became a member of, and was baptized at, "Trinity United Church of Christ" and remained there for 20 years, until some "controversial" statements made by Reverend Jeremiah Wright, which we can discuss the validity of at another time, led to his departure from the church. Once again there is absolutely no evidence to support the claim he is a Muslim apart from how he attended a Madrasah and had a Muslim father. Well, I attended a Christian school, church, and had religious Christian grandparents. I'm an Agnostic now. The burden of proof is upon the right.
Racism:
This was suggested by Glen Beck and others, but is not a widely used idea. I mean, Glen Beck could say the Earth IS round, I would have to then look it up to see if it is true.
Socialist and Fascist; taking away our rights and freedoms!:
This idea has come from the right wing as a whole pretty much. With tea baggers, talk radio idiots, FOX news, Joe "The tax evading, unlicensed plumber" Wurzelbacher and the now unemployed blogger Sarah Palin pretty much agreeing that he is a socialist and a fascist, we can see how the right has come to accept these ideas as true. This is notably a prime example of the right wing advocacy of an Idiocracy, which is a government made up of idiots.
Socialism and Fascism are on the opposite side of the spectrum. So, the first thing i will ask of the right is to choose one. Calling him both a fascist and socialist is, I paraphrase TheAmazingAtheist, "like looking at a triangle and calling it both a circle and a square". Both advocate different forms of government from each other, different economic and social structures, social and foreign policies. Socialism is based on class struggle, worker ownership of the means of production, secularism and the want of economic equality. Fascism is based on a nationalistic view of the homeland, maintaining social conservatism and serving the wealthy and corporations via a dictatorial military government whilst misleading it's public into believing that it is doing this for the worker. I could make a full blog post on the differences, but that's for another time.
Obama is neither of these. He is a capitalist. Not a free market capitalist, for sure, but a capitalist nonetheless. He advocates private ownership of the means of production and the profit motive. BHO has never supported the idea of class war, economic equality, a welfare state or revolution. Though you may consider proposing universal healthcare a socialist ideal. Well, it is, but so is having a public fire department, public police, public roads, public libraries, publicly funded disease research centers, etc. What about "redistribution of wealth"? Well, go to the link and read away my friend. Fascism as anywhere near Obama's ideals is more substantial than calling him a socialist, but is still wrong. There are no correlations, apart form the corporatism and general tenedencies which has plagued the USA government for years. To quote George Carlin, "Germany lost the second world war, fascism won it...".
On the issue of rights and freedoms. Could you on the right be more specific as to what rights and freedoms have been taken away from you? I mean, aside from those Bush took away. Remember how you said nothing about that? Well, unless we on the left spoke out, then you told us to shut up and stop being un-American.
Obamacare:
- Illegal immigrants will be covered. That is false. Although it would save tax payers money if illegals were allowed to purchase public option insurance.
- Death Panels will be set up to decide if your child or grandparents will be put to death because they are not useful to society. That is false.
- It is a government takeover. No, it is a Public Option, note the word option, to expand competition and lower costs. It will increase care given to you by making it illegal to deny you because of preexisting conditions.
- Abortions will be funded by taxpayers. False.
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To conclude, it is completely unhelpful to the development and progression of a nation to push lies and propaganda to the point that it disrupts logic and reason. Obama is neither a socialist or fascist. He is an American, Christian, capitalist and he is not gonna kill your grand mama. All of you who still believe in these fallacies propagated from FOX News and Talk-radio, I hope you enjoy being an imbecile.
These are some of my news sources, check them out if your sick of CNN, FOX, CBS and NBC.
http://english.aljazeera.net/
http://www.democracynow.org/
http://commondreams.org/
http://therealnews.com/t/
http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/
http://www.cbc.ca/
http://www.presstv.com/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
http://www.haaretz.com/
http://www.reuters.com/
http://associatedpress.com/
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